What I saw last night
I think after watching two debates the main problem that Bush/Cheney 04 (BC04) have is that they are having to, finally, address the issues. And when you see them address the issues you realize all the things they have messed up. That is the problem BC04 have. They have other problems as well but when you are just wrong on most issues and lying about so many too it would take overwhelming, Keenedyesque, style, which Bush and Cheney don't have, to overcome their record. So I believe that to be BC04's main problem in this last month. I think Cheney took a few shots but other than that once you fact check the debate you know that one of Cheney's best shots was his comment about not having met Edwards before last night, despite the fact that he is President of the Senate. But then we see these two pictures, here and here. So once again the problem with Cheney is that you can't believe anything that comes out of his mouth.

If you need the lies broken down William Rivers Pitt gets the ball rolling, Cheney's Avalanche of Lies. This on stands out:

Yes, the lies were thick before Cheney took his seat at the desk on Tuesday night. They got thicker. Edwards, in a theme repeated throughout the night, stated that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with the attacks of September 11, and that the Bush administration had erred grievously by diverting attention from Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda and into Iraq. Several times, Edwards accused Cheney of rhetorically combining Iraq and 9/11.

"I have not," replied Cheney, "suggested there is a connection between Iraq and 9/11."

Hm.

"His regime has had high-level contacts with al Qaeda going back a decade and has provided training to al Qaeda terrorists." - Cheney, 12/2/02

"His regime aids and protects terrorists, including members of al Qaeda. He could decide secretly to provide weapons of mass destruction to terrorists for use against us." - Cheney, 1/30/03

"I think there's overwhelming evidence that there was a connection between al Qaeda and the Iraqi government." - Cheney, 1/22/04

"There's been enormous confusion over the Iraq and al-Qaeda connection, Gloria. First of all, on the question of - of whether or not there was any kind of a relationship, there was a relationship. It's been testified to. The evidence is overwhelming. It goes back to the early '90s...There's clearly been a relationship." - Cheney, 6/17/04

Now if that's not lying I don't know what is. So what I saw was one my trying to lay out his administration would do (Edwards) and another man trying to justify the mistakes his administration has made (Cheney). One made a good case and the other did nothing but lie. I'm sure you know which man made which case.
- posted by Mom/Dad @ 8:11 AM